P.S.: I am local Sindhi and Raja Dahir is my hero.

What we are not told is that where resistance was strong, long-drawn-out and rigorous, Muhammad bin Qasim’s response was rather ruthless. By credible accounts, he inflicted 6,000 deaths at Rawar, between 6,000 and 26,000 at Brahmanabad, 4,000 at Iskalandah and 6,000 at Multan. And that he built many mosques upon the sites of razed Hindu temples.

In here “where resistance was strong, long-drawn-out and rigorous” is known as verbal make-up (or leepa poti).

You people believe in wrong leaders. Qasim was no hero and was a tyrant. You take the deeds of all the Muslim leaders so lightly viz. killing of people as mass murders, sending women to Arabia and breaking temples to build mosques over them.

So, is that the reason why you call him the first Pakistani ? I should have been really ashamed of this article, if I would have been at your place. But, I am not that unlucky.

Talking about Pakistan being the oldest civilization is sheer bullshit as Indus Valley civilization existed long before people could speak correctly in Arabia. The Maths, Science and Astrology that people practice was mostly developed by Indians as Aryabhatt the great.

The problem that I see is we humans need a stand. You find that in the tyrants as Muhammad Bin Qasim (he deserved to die like that due to his deeds…..remember whatever we do, we payback for that in the two worlds…and history repeats itself). We find it in the truth, obviously an irony that we people live in. Why don’t you create a detailed article on what the Pak Army did in 1971 in East Pakistan. Stick to the word TRUTH SPRING. No fabrication, if you need to know true history about your lands, let me know. Every single word will be nothing but 100% truth.

By the way, you people keep venting out on Israel and Zionism. Compare them to what the creation of Pakistan has done to the India of 1947. Israel is a great nation and they existed long before any muslim on this planet known as earth arrive. You people are the most vicious killers from the time of your origin (not talking of your Hindu ancestory). Whereever you went you spread bloodshed and killing of innocent people. Do you know why ? Because that is the sole message of your civilization and that is not of Indus (The name India came from that civilization of ours). You people feel so insecure that you put the virtues of false supremacy in your kids and youngsters at a very nascent stage. If you feel that you are so talented then build something on your own (viz. homemade satellites, missiles, language, script and more). Always remember that the God never forgives the one who is not ethical and spreads the false propaganda. You people have great skills in terms of learning languages and computing (we Indians still appreciate the positives….even after 47,61,65 and Kargil). Why don’t you try to be someone like Dara Shiko, one decent guy among you people. Belong to the lands you take birth on. You feel much better. i know that this post will create controversies and will be deleted. Think about the meaning of your country’s name and what you people are doing. Now, globally viz. funding the 9/11, attack on Indians in Afghanistan. I wonder how you people justify your acts to your inner self.

Nahush

Interesting article – obviously I was not much aware of Mr. Qasim / his achievements / his standing in Pak!

Reminds me of a report I had read about some Afghans taking objections to Pakistan naming missiles after their greats! J

But what you mention also, to me appears as one of the most important problems of Pak. For some reason, the country wants to disown its own history – and adopt what a few (maybe many) thinkers felt will give the country a better future… or maybe they just wanted a better past!

If a human behaves the way Pak has done, he would promptly be sent to a mental asylum.

I have read people claiming that Pakistan was the oldest civilization – which is true, but one also needs to accept that Pakistan is a very new idea compared to Indus valley!

My generation (born 20+ years after independence) in India does not have any ambitions of an akhand bharat, etc. neither do we get emotional about partition – we have moved on. I wonder when will the Pakistani public move? More balanced & sensible articles from people like you will certainly help, but you seriously need more company!

Good luck! And thanks!

Suhas

Pakistanis are descendants of hindus and are hindus (=inhabitants of the Sindhu river basin), but islam teaches them to glorify those who attacked, killed, plundered, raped their hindu ancestors.

When will pakistanis think over this, when will they be allowed to think over this? When will they be taught also the hindu experience of history?

There is a move among charter and private schools in the U.S. to present what is termed a “classical education” which maintains a focus on the three-legged educational stool, minimizing the remainder. When studying heroes, these kids won’t focus on George Washington chopping down the cherry tree or Thomas Jefferson’s mistress. They will focus on absorbing principles of governance as expressed by our Founding Fathers, how to solve difficult math equations and create chemical reactions in the lab, master basic physics.

This grassroots movement is a reaction against our own dismal public school system which is embedded with “educators” whom studies have shown performed poorly on their own college entrance exams. Hey! Can’t make the top ten percentile? Choose to educate the next generation! smile In Texas, the public school system is a sacred cow, carefully guarded by its herders. We are losing our competitive edge.

On a happy note, an article was in the Fort Worth Star-Telegram today with a photo of Dr. Farhan Ali and Dr. Nasim Ahktar displaying a new heart pump device. Men such as these are the success story of education. But the gaps must be narrowed between the educated elite and the functionally illiterate poor.

Tammy Swofford

But your criticism too is being published Imza.

In my opinion, Wikipedia is the 3rd most important thing that has happened to the human species in the modern age. The first two are the internet and Google. Wikipedia didn’t criticize the government of Pakistan for teaching selective history–the scribe did. Wikipedia just gives the facts. Merely reproducing it, as you suggest, will serve no purpose.

Perhaps Imza too could use these sources to make his point.

Anwaar

it seems people cant seem to absorb cricisim (logical and illogical) to any of the writings by anwaar.
No tombstone did not and will not open eyes of Pakistanis. Since its title is offending by itself. Do you think Pakistani govt will start changing names of ports/ships etc because MBQ was wrongly labled as hero or will change school history books. Will it?

As far as end of MBQ, no class of children in any school stops without asking what happened in the end? Which they are told even if its not written in the school books.

Rest all is available on the net, reproducing wikkipedia is easy.

imza

A favored writer for me is Dr. Pervez Hoodbhoy. What a brain inside of that head! He writes quite succinctly on the pitfalls of the public educational system in Pakistan, what is presented in lower level classroom environments. Naturally, we have some of the same bull, in our educational system.

*Anwaar, regarding Texas Longhorns, the Fort Worth Livestock Show and rodeo is a good place to contemplate a bit of bull.