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		<title>By: Zzz</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 May 2011 17:45:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And plz read comment no 22 by G.Vishvas 
Islam in Indian sub continent has spread like poison when a snake bites an unsuspecting farmer in his farm. The British took Indian money and gold the Muslims took Indian people, well done cobra ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And plz read comment no 22 by G.Vishvas<br />
Islam in Indian sub continent has spread like poison when a snake bites an unsuspecting farmer in his farm. The British took Indian money and gold the Muslims took Indian people, well done cobra <img src='http://truthspring.info/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Zzz</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 May 2011 17:41:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Islam was a religion made by a man who wanted some recognition. It was a good copy in the end with flaws of the Jewish religion and deep down both Muslims and Jews know this fact. The Jews claim Israel and are insecure on being surrounded by Muslims by all area that&#039;s the reason they wish and try to destabilize their neighbors. It might and probably will create wars but its one of the few options they are left with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Islam was a religion made by a man who wanted some recognition. It was a good copy in the end with flaws of the Jewish religion and deep down both Muslims and Jews know this fact. The Jews claim Israel and are insecure on being surrounded by Muslims by all area that&#8217;s the reason they wish and try to destabilize their neighbors. It might and probably will create wars but its one of the few options they are left with.</p>
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		<title>By: Admin</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 May 2010 02:09:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Sam,

This site is, and always will be, as much yours as mine. Welcome back my friend. Glad to know all is well.

Like I always maintained, we must stick by the truth and nothing but the truth. In that lies the only salvation.

The beast hiding in whatever religion, nationality, creed, dogma or ideology has to be exposed. I hope you too understand me better now Sam.

Read it &lt;a href=&quot;http://truthspring.info/about/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.

Regards,

Anwaar</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Sam,</p>
<p>This site is, and always will be, as much yours as mine. Welcome back my friend. Glad to know all is well.</p>
<p>Like I always maintained, we must stick by the truth and nothing but the truth. In that lies the only salvation.</p>
<p>The beast hiding in whatever religion, nationality, creed, dogma or ideology has to be exposed. I hope you too understand me better now Sam.</p>
<p>Read it <a href="http://truthspring.info/about/" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
<p>Anwaar</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Elfassy</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 May 2010 02:02:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Anwaar,

Good to see your beautiful website, and your pen striking well on and on. I wish you good health and all the best.

As things are coming out more and more regarding the nature of the beast I hope you start to understand me better now... As we know this is only a drop in an ocean of THE evil.

All ok on my front here.

Have a beautiful day,

best,

Sam</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Anwaar,</p>
<p>Good to see your beautiful website, and your pen striking well on and on. I wish you good health and all the best.</p>
<p>As things are coming out more and more regarding the nature of the beast I hope you start to understand me better now&#8230; As we know this is only a drop in an ocean of THE evil.</p>
<p>All ok on my front here.</p>
<p>Have a beautiful day,</p>
<p>best,</p>
<p>Sam</p>
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		<title>By: tammy swofford</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 12:33:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James,

I believe it is really gall bladder bile, which is sought for health. When in Mongolia, our team saw a bear in a cage with a bile tube draining bile for medicinal purposes. And yes, to the rhino tusk.  At an area hospital, the pharmacist was busy grinding up a tusk as a homeopathic Rx. for arthritis.  There is actually a more appropriate use for the rhino tusk, when considering healthy solutions for North Korea.  smile

Tammy Swofford</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James,</p>
<p>I believe it is really gall bladder bile, which is sought for health. When in Mongolia, our team saw a bear in a cage with a bile tube draining bile for medicinal purposes. And yes, to the rhino tusk.  At an area hospital, the pharmacist was busy grinding up a tusk as a homeopathic Rx. for arthritis.  There is actually a more appropriate use for the rhino tusk, when considering healthy solutions for North Korea.  smile</p>
<p>Tammy Swofford</p>
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		<title>By: Oppenheim</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 23:04:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anwaar -- I have kept the Sabbath, that is all.

Efforts to delegitimize and demonize Israel have been generally so passionate as to prove little more than presumptuous.  

As with the altogether dismissible Goldstone report, this now out of Dubai may and probably will melt into confusion.

Such as Mahmoud al-Mabhouh make enemies, so much so they become fugitive for some(before his murder, al-Mabhouh had in pursuit the states of Egypt and Jordan as well as Israel) and for untrustworthy others candidates for false flag operations.  

In this now muddled affair, two Palestinians, Ahmad Hasnin and Anwar Shekhaiber, have been dragged behind Israel for allegedly providing logistical support for the murder while the most strident of accusing voices remains that of Hamas, and in the arena of extrajudicial killing, Hamas has done so much so well for so long in Gaza as to have no credible rivals for the practice in the region.

This source is Israeli: http://www.btselem.org/english/statistics/casualties_data.asp?Category=25&amp;region=TER , 

This one is Palestinian: http://www.maannews.net/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?ID=208221

Search string applied: &quot;Gaza Hamas extrajudicial killing&quot;.

Last month, the BBC noted, &quot;The Jerusalem Post reported suspicions voiced across the region that the Palestinian Authority, run by Hamas&#039;s rival organisation Fatah, might have had a hand in the attack&quot; before going on to indulge its own penchant for a good spook story:

&quot;All this leads to another question: Does the hit team&#039;s detailed knowledge of his itinerary, the lack of bodyguards and the possibility he was comfortable travelling on his own identity, paint a scenario where Mr Mabhouh was served up to his assassins in Dubai by people he trusted?&quot;

Source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8521942.stm

Let&#039;s talk about this rhetoric &quot; . . . super power approved international thuggery of one nation.&quot;

Honestly, I don&#039;t know how Iran gets away with what it does to its own people and with its meddling in the region.  

One might hope a &quot;superpower&quot; would intervene, but none has yet, at least not visibly.

Of course, away from the ambitiously hijacked old Persia, admissions of culpability on the Arab Muslim side of the familiar bickering seldom surface.  

Should we now &quot;Google&quot; Abdel Wael Zwaiter, Ghassan Kanafani, Wadie Haddad, et al., we may find, at least online, the same ambiguous notes--and notes of ambiguous notes--while something like the truth continues to reside in investigator notes, court records, and in unpublished jottings by journalists, all of which do no one much good kept dark.  Until we have peace enough to bring to light state secrets all around, we may speculate endlessly on behalf of one agenda or another.

On this web page, &quot; . . . approved international thuggery of one nation&quot; says more about rhetoric than it does factual reality, and in doing so, it leaves out the better part of the story, which here would seem to revolve around the perception of al-Mabhouh&#039;s threat to regional security, not merely that of Israel alone, and detection of the social engineering and reach of the Islamic Revolution in Iran.

We may move on to &quot; . . . highlighting the criminal offense of a rogue nation . . . .&quot;  another passionate condemnation having for its basis the sound of itself.  

Egypt, Jordan, and Israel, among others, have each the obligation of securing their own citizen&#039;s defense, and a man who, allegedly but perhaps less allegedly and more truly than others, trades in arms to promote the viability of war in the region draws their attention.  

As mentioned, al-Mabhouh was a pursued man, and that not by Israel alone.

As regards the statement on the &quot;Axis of Evil&quot; states--Iraq, North Korea, Iran--Iraquis of late have braved polls threatened by other than Americans (or Egyptians, Jordanians, Israelis, Danish cartoonists, etc.) while Iranians, quite familiar with the ways of their regime, its record of serial murders, and the suppression of public protest, have been fighting gamely for a  less medieval and ungodly governance (reference, any given day: http://www.iranhumanrights.org/).  

North Korea, way outside Islam and distinctly idolatrous as regards its leadership, would seem the odd rogue out here for having for its threat profile the will of a mere family, an army, and its head, Kim Jong II, a 68-year-old figure who has most recently sought &quot;bear gall bladder, rhinoceros horn and musk&quot; for what ails him, all healthy alternatives, so anyone sane may suppose, to the pleasures taken by the dictator in the contemplated launching of nukes against the south.  (Reference quoted for the remedies: http://www.chinapost.com.tw/asia/korea/2010/02/16/244952/Questions-about.htm).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anwaar &#8212; I have kept the Sabbath, that is all.</p>
<p>Efforts to delegitimize and demonize Israel have been generally so passionate as to prove little more than presumptuous.  </p>
<p>As with the altogether dismissible Goldstone report, this now out of Dubai may and probably will melt into confusion.</p>
<p>Such as Mahmoud al-Mabhouh make enemies, so much so they become fugitive for some(before his murder, al-Mabhouh had in pursuit the states of Egypt and Jordan as well as Israel) and for untrustworthy others candidates for false flag operations.  </p>
<p>In this now muddled affair, two Palestinians, Ahmad Hasnin and Anwar Shekhaiber, have been dragged behind Israel for allegedly providing logistical support for the murder while the most strident of accusing voices remains that of Hamas, and in the arena of extrajudicial killing, Hamas has done so much so well for so long in Gaza as to have no credible rivals for the practice in the region.</p>
<p>This source is Israeli: <a href="http://www.btselem.org/english/statistics/casualties_data.asp?Category=25&#038;region=TER" rel="nofollow">http://www.btselem.org/english/statistics/casualties_data.asp?Category=25&#038;region=TER</a> , </p>
<p>This one is Palestinian: <a href="http://www.maannews.net/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?ID=208221" rel="nofollow">http://www.maannews.net/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?ID=208221</a></p>
<p>Search string applied: &#8220;Gaza Hamas extrajudicial killing&#8221;.</p>
<p>Last month, the BBC noted, &#8220;The Jerusalem Post reported suspicions voiced across the region that the Palestinian Authority, run by Hamas&#8217;s rival organisation Fatah, might have had a hand in the attack&#8221; before going on to indulge its own penchant for a good spook story:</p>
<p>&#8220;All this leads to another question: Does the hit team&#8217;s detailed knowledge of his itinerary, the lack of bodyguards and the possibility he was comfortable travelling on his own identity, paint a scenario where Mr Mabhouh was served up to his assassins in Dubai by people he trusted?&#8221;</p>
<p>Source: <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8521942.stm" rel="nofollow">http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8521942.stm</a></p>
<p>Let&#8217;s talk about this rhetoric &#8221; . . . super power approved international thuggery of one nation.&#8221;</p>
<p>Honestly, I don&#8217;t know how Iran gets away with what it does to its own people and with its meddling in the region.  </p>
<p>One might hope a &#8220;superpower&#8221; would intervene, but none has yet, at least not visibly.</p>
<p>Of course, away from the ambitiously hijacked old Persia, admissions of culpability on the Arab Muslim side of the familiar bickering seldom surface.  </p>
<p>Should we now &#8220;Google&#8221; Abdel Wael Zwaiter, Ghassan Kanafani, Wadie Haddad, et al., we may find, at least online, the same ambiguous notes&#8211;and notes of ambiguous notes&#8211;while something like the truth continues to reside in investigator notes, court records, and in unpublished jottings by journalists, all of which do no one much good kept dark.  Until we have peace enough to bring to light state secrets all around, we may speculate endlessly on behalf of one agenda or another.</p>
<p>On this web page, &#8221; . . . approved international thuggery of one nation&#8221; says more about rhetoric than it does factual reality, and in doing so, it leaves out the better part of the story, which here would seem to revolve around the perception of al-Mabhouh&#8217;s threat to regional security, not merely that of Israel alone, and detection of the social engineering and reach of the Islamic Revolution in Iran.</p>
<p>We may move on to &#8221; . . . highlighting the criminal offense of a rogue nation . . . .&#8221;  another passionate condemnation having for its basis the sound of itself.  </p>
<p>Egypt, Jordan, and Israel, among others, have each the obligation of securing their own citizen&#8217;s defense, and a man who, allegedly but perhaps less allegedly and more truly than others, trades in arms to promote the viability of war in the region draws their attention.  </p>
<p>As mentioned, al-Mabhouh was a pursued man, and that not by Israel alone.</p>
<p>As regards the statement on the &#8220;Axis of Evil&#8221; states&#8211;Iraq, North Korea, Iran&#8211;Iraquis of late have braved polls threatened by other than Americans (or Egyptians, Jordanians, Israelis, Danish cartoonists, etc.) while Iranians, quite familiar with the ways of their regime, its record of serial murders, and the suppression of public protest, have been fighting gamely for a  less medieval and ungodly governance (reference, any given day: <a href="http://www.iranhumanrights.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.iranhumanrights.org/</a>).  </p>
<p>North Korea, way outside Islam and distinctly idolatrous as regards its leadership, would seem the odd rogue out here for having for its threat profile the will of a mere family, an army, and its head, Kim Jong II, a 68-year-old figure who has most recently sought &#8220;bear gall bladder, rhinoceros horn and musk&#8221; for what ails him, all healthy alternatives, so anyone sane may suppose, to the pleasures taken by the dictator in the contemplated launching of nukes against the south.  (Reference quoted for the remedies: <a href="http://www.chinapost.com.tw/asia/korea/2010/02/16/244952/Questions-about.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.chinapost.com.tw/asia/korea/2010/02/16/244952/Questions-about.htm</a>).</p>
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		<title>By: tammy swofford</title>
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		<dc:creator>tammy swofford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 02:15:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: &quot;Oppenheim will not come back as....&quot; is based on presumption.  I know Oppenheim. Busy individual, and as such a blog comment may never convert into a thread of thought. 

Regarding the prior post - freedom of expression - the United States is an incredibly open society in this particular regard. These freedoms have been earned the hard way - moving through the courts, at times slowly, but finally with issues resolved with remarkable clarity.

In Cantwell v Connecticut (1940) Justice Owen Roberts penned remarkable words:

&quot;In the realm of religious faith, and that of political belief, sharp differences arise. In both fields the tenets of one man may seem the rankest error to his neighbor. To persuade others of his own point of view, the pleader, as we know, at times resorts to exaggeration, to vilification of men who have been, or are, prominent in church or state, and even to false statement. But the people of this nation have ordained in the light of history that, in spite of the probability of excesses and abuses, these liberties are, in the long view, essential to enlightened opinion and right conduct on the part of the citizens of a democracy.&quot;

Cantwell v Connecticut was a reversal of a conviction against a minister of the Jehovah&#039;s Witness faith who denounced the Catholic church. The court upheld his right to speak against a different religious persuasion.

As an individual, I am completely opposed to any sort of change to our penal code which would allow &quot;hate crime&quot; penalties for speaking against Islam,  which would reduce us to anti-blasphemy laws,  contrary to our American traditions. In America we allow tremendous latitude for expressive freedom. My guess is if I wave a Bible in front of Lal Masjid I will be beaten senseless. In America, the Qur&#039;an may be waved in front of a church with little second thought.  May we all gain a bit of common sense and sweep out the dark corners of our minds.

Didn&#039;t mean to move off on a sidewinder here, Anwaar. But just wishing to tag-team on freedom of expression.

And for the next person:  &quot;Tag!  You&#039;re it!&quot; smile 

Tammy Swofford</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: &#8220;Oppenheim will not come back as&#8230;.&#8221; is based on presumption.  I know Oppenheim. Busy individual, and as such a blog comment may never convert into a thread of thought. </p>
<p>Regarding the prior post &#8211; freedom of expression &#8211; the United States is an incredibly open society in this particular regard. These freedoms have been earned the hard way &#8211; moving through the courts, at times slowly, but finally with issues resolved with remarkable clarity.</p>
<p>In Cantwell v Connecticut (1940) Justice Owen Roberts penned remarkable words:</p>
<p>&#8220;In the realm of religious faith, and that of political belief, sharp differences arise. In both fields the tenets of one man may seem the rankest error to his neighbor. To persuade others of his own point of view, the pleader, as we know, at times resorts to exaggeration, to vilification of men who have been, or are, prominent in church or state, and even to false statement. But the people of this nation have ordained in the light of history that, in spite of the probability of excesses and abuses, these liberties are, in the long view, essential to enlightened opinion and right conduct on the part of the citizens of a democracy.&#8221;</p>
<p>Cantwell v Connecticut was a reversal of a conviction against a minister of the Jehovah&#8217;s Witness faith who denounced the Catholic church. The court upheld his right to speak against a different religious persuasion.</p>
<p>As an individual, I am completely opposed to any sort of change to our penal code which would allow &#8220;hate crime&#8221; penalties for speaking against Islam,  which would reduce us to anti-blasphemy laws,  contrary to our American traditions. In America we allow tremendous latitude for expressive freedom. My guess is if I wave a Bible in front of Lal Masjid I will be beaten senseless. In America, the Qur&#8217;an may be waved in front of a church with little second thought.  May we all gain a bit of common sense and sweep out the dark corners of our minds.</p>
<p>Didn&#8217;t mean to move off on a sidewinder here, Anwaar. But just wishing to tag-team on freedom of expression.</p>
<p>And for the next person:  &#8220;Tag!  You&#8217;re it!&#8221; smile </p>
<p>Tammy Swofford</p>
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		<title>By: G.Vishvas</title>
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		<dc:creator>G.Vishvas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 10:14:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Masroor ul Hasan (of comment 21)

Hindu = one who lives in the Sindhu river basin.

That is the real original definition of the word hindu as used by iranians (zoroastrians, before they were invaded and exterminated by arab muslims). This word is found in Iran before Alexander&#039;s times. That time the word had a neutral geographic-ethnic meaning. The greeks changed it to Indos (plural Indoi)since they could not pronounce h or u (u became o). The iranians could not pronounce the initial s and made it into an h. (Sindhu - hindu)

After islam came to Iran the word hindu acquired a denigrative meaning - a word to insult and humiliate the hindus. This shows the result of islam and the mentality that its produces among its non-arab quislings.

Hence Hindus cannot steal land from those who live in the Sindhu river basin. The very definition of the word &quot;hindu&quot; is like that. 

Hindu religions are many and are a result of many external and internal influences (aryan, dravidian, pre-dravidian, post-aryan, european etc. etc.) Their development is going on - they are not finalized and fossilized like islam. Hence in the ISC (Indian Subcontinent - a word which pakistanis fear and hate) islam is 100% alien whereas hindu religions are 100% indigenous.

Aryans may have stolen land from dravidians (a theory propagated by the british, but also doubted by many) - but today hindus are both aryans and dravidians, and they both are hindus. In fact dravidians are more faithful and believing hindus than aryans. The dravidian component in hindu religions is more than the aryan one.

Pakistanis are the real hindus, but islam has taught them to hate and humiliate hindus and everything hindu. Islam is teaching pakistanis to become mental servants and slaves of arab imperialism and arab hegemony and racism. Take a look at the teaching material used in pakistani schools to confirm this. 

Regarding USA stealing land from &quot;indians&quot; or white Australians from the aborigines - these are topics which need not be discussed in a pakistani forum, especially when the intention is to relativize the stealing and snatching done by agents and quislings of islam in the ISC. Let the others bother about the thefts that have taken place in or of their lands - but in the indian subcontinent (ISC) we have to first bother about what has happened in the ISC, about a falsified islam-glorifying history that is being taught to Pakistani children who are descendants (largely) of hindus and are being taught to humiliate and vilfy their own hindu  ancestors in order to please the arabs and turks. (just look up the article &quot;No Tombstone for the Hero?&quot; on this very site)

Islam teaches a muslim that he must glorify and justify islam at all costs and hence muslim history-writing is not objective and honest. The purpose of muslim history-writing is to glorify islam, muslim arabs and the muslim conquests and humiliate the non-arabs and non-muslims and dismiss their pains, narratives and claims. Muslim propagandists have eagerly taken up the theory that hindu=aryan and hinduism came to India from outside through an aryan invasion. This theory is much taught in Pakistan although it is totally untrue and illogical. Aryans came to ISC as immigrants (not always violent or as robbers) and mixed up with the dravidian populations and created many hindu religions and sects. The dravidians too came as immigrants earlier and mixed up with the previous pre-dravidian populations. But pakistanis/muslims have created their own lies in this regard for pro-islamic propaganda purposes. No one in Pakistan questions (or dares to question) these lies.    

If you cannot discuss the above analyses and opinions openly and publicly in Pakistan then you have a clear proof on the hand that islam has caused Pakistan to become a closed-minded totalitarian society wherein honesty and freedom of expression are restricted only to praising islam and muslims.

Freedom of expression makes sense only if the ruling ideology can be criticized publicly and safely. And in Pakistan the ruling ideology is islam.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Masroor ul Hasan (of comment 21)</p>
<p>Hindu = one who lives in the Sindhu river basin.</p>
<p>That is the real original definition of the word hindu as used by iranians (zoroastrians, before they were invaded and exterminated by arab muslims). This word is found in Iran before Alexander&#8217;s times. That time the word had a neutral geographic-ethnic meaning. The greeks changed it to Indos (plural Indoi)since they could not pronounce h or u (u became o). The iranians could not pronounce the initial s and made it into an h. (Sindhu &#8211; hindu)</p>
<p>After islam came to Iran the word hindu acquired a denigrative meaning &#8211; a word to insult and humiliate the hindus. This shows the result of islam and the mentality that its produces among its non-arab quislings.</p>
<p>Hence Hindus cannot steal land from those who live in the Sindhu river basin. The very definition of the word &#8220;hindu&#8221; is like that. </p>
<p>Hindu religions are many and are a result of many external and internal influences (aryan, dravidian, pre-dravidian, post-aryan, european etc. etc.) Their development is going on &#8211; they are not finalized and fossilized like islam. Hence in the ISC (Indian Subcontinent &#8211; a word which pakistanis fear and hate) islam is 100% alien whereas hindu religions are 100% indigenous.</p>
<p>Aryans may have stolen land from dravidians (a theory propagated by the british, but also doubted by many) &#8211; but today hindus are both aryans and dravidians, and they both are hindus. In fact dravidians are more faithful and believing hindus than aryans. The dravidian component in hindu religions is more than the aryan one.</p>
<p>Pakistanis are the real hindus, but islam has taught them to hate and humiliate hindus and everything hindu. Islam is teaching pakistanis to become mental servants and slaves of arab imperialism and arab hegemony and racism. Take a look at the teaching material used in pakistani schools to confirm this. </p>
<p>Regarding USA stealing land from &#8220;indians&#8221; or white Australians from the aborigines &#8211; these are topics which need not be discussed in a pakistani forum, especially when the intention is to relativize the stealing and snatching done by agents and quislings of islam in the ISC. Let the others bother about the thefts that have taken place in or of their lands &#8211; but in the indian subcontinent (ISC) we have to first bother about what has happened in the ISC, about a falsified islam-glorifying history that is being taught to Pakistani children who are descendants (largely) of hindus and are being taught to humiliate and vilfy their own hindu  ancestors in order to please the arabs and turks. (just look up the article &#8220;No Tombstone for the Hero?&#8221; on this very site)</p>
<p>Islam teaches a muslim that he must glorify and justify islam at all costs and hence muslim history-writing is not objective and honest. The purpose of muslim history-writing is to glorify islam, muslim arabs and the muslim conquests and humiliate the non-arabs and non-muslims and dismiss their pains, narratives and claims. Muslim propagandists have eagerly taken up the theory that hindu=aryan and hinduism came to India from outside through an aryan invasion. This theory is much taught in Pakistan although it is totally untrue and illogical. Aryans came to ISC as immigrants (not always violent or as robbers) and mixed up with the dravidian populations and created many hindu religions and sects. The dravidians too came as immigrants earlier and mixed up with the previous pre-dravidian populations. But pakistanis/muslims have created their own lies in this regard for pro-islamic propaganda purposes. No one in Pakistan questions (or dares to question) these lies.    </p>
<p>If you cannot discuss the above analyses and opinions openly and publicly in Pakistan then you have a clear proof on the hand that islam has caused Pakistan to become a closed-minded totalitarian society wherein honesty and freedom of expression are restricted only to praising islam and muslims.</p>
<p>Freedom of expression makes sense only if the ruling ideology can be criticized publicly and safely. And in Pakistan the ruling ideology is islam.</p>
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		<title>By: Masroor ul Hassan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Masroor ul Hassan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 03:28:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anwaar, Oppenheim will not come back as he seems to have realized that he  missed the point totally while reading your article or commented after reading the title only.

Here I want to discuss comment number 13 by G. Vishvas. He asserts, “Today’s israel stole land from palestinians – today’s Pakistan stole land from hindus.” 

When he chooses to trace history, why does he stop before present Hindus displaced and STOLE land of local inhabitants? Why does he not consider present America which was carved out of blood; bones of original so called Indians?  Why does he not consider present Australia which sits on carcasses of “Aboriginals”?

He is closed minded person who has jaundice eye affecting his vision so he sees all saffron!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anwaar, Oppenheim will not come back as he seems to have realized that he  missed the point totally while reading your article or commented after reading the title only.</p>
<p>Here I want to discuss comment number 13 by G. Vishvas. He asserts, “Today’s israel stole land from palestinians – today’s Pakistan stole land from hindus.” </p>
<p>When he chooses to trace history, why does he stop before present Hindus displaced and STOLE land of local inhabitants? Why does he not consider present America which was carved out of blood; bones of original so called Indians?  Why does he not consider present Australia which sits on carcasses of “Aboriginals”?</p>
<p>He is closed minded person who has jaundice eye affecting his vision so he sees all saffron!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 06:41:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know you meant no disrespect Anwaar, and I understood your purpose, I guess I am just very direct in my statements, which is why I have never considered politics or diplomacy as potential fields for a career, LOL! I admire your diplomatic and gentle yet firm and precise writings, something my anger would cause me to fail at should I try!

Now saying this, I hope that this subject will be enjoined by other posters/readers and we might get a chance to understand differing points of view, for I have been wrong before, and don&#039;t mind someone educating me to a truth I may have missed or not considered in enough depth!

I myself believe that a nation is only as good as it&#039;s legal protections to those who have not been tried, but only accused, anything beyond this is lynching, amoral, and brutish! I do believe leaders should be held responsible for their actions but legally, both by native and international laws. It is the easy way to murder those we may fear or hate, but just when does the murder stop, and are the families of these people also targets to get at the person? This as Gandhi said &quot;an eye for an eye will just leave the whole world blind&quot; has no end, until the last man is left standing alone!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know you meant no disrespect Anwaar, and I understood your purpose, I guess I am just very direct in my statements, which is why I have never considered politics or diplomacy as potential fields for a career, LOL! I admire your diplomatic and gentle yet firm and precise writings, something my anger would cause me to fail at should I try!</p>
<p>Now saying this, I hope that this subject will be enjoined by other posters/readers and we might get a chance to understand differing points of view, for I have been wrong before, and don&#8217;t mind someone educating me to a truth I may have missed or not considered in enough depth!</p>
<p>I myself believe that a nation is only as good as it&#8217;s legal protections to those who have not been tried, but only accused, anything beyond this is lynching, amoral, and brutish! I do believe leaders should be held responsible for their actions but legally, both by native and international laws. It is the easy way to murder those we may fear or hate, but just when does the murder stop, and are the families of these people also targets to get at the person? This as Gandhi said &#8220;an eye for an eye will just leave the whole world blind&#8221; has no end, until the last man is left standing alone!</p>
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